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Posted by kpsvermma on February 14 2008, 04:41 AM GMT IPL is doing to cricket what macauley suggested and britain did to rule india. he felt indian society is too strong social and cultural bonds to easily be ruled by britain. he suggested that we divide and rule them. BCCI with all its money could not make its teams in tests and ODI ever reach number 1 spot. that was reserved for australia because of their professional approach to game. so break australian national team. pinch ponting, symonds, brett lee and few others and on next tour india can beat australia. pinch shane bond and vittory from NZ and we can beat NZ. take makhaya nitiny and steyn from SA and then beat them. and we will be number one. This IPL is death of cricket unless it dies its natural death. well it may. money and fools can not live together long. once IPL dies and money dries up a bit, we will again have cricketers who will be ready to die for their country instead of for a tamasha. Posted by Legcutter on February 13 2008, 19:39 PM GMT Although KiwiNicker's final comment may have been a bit tongue in cheek, what is there to stop the more impoverished cricketing nations leading the charge and breaking away from the ICC/BCCI hegemony? In fact, if sufficient dollars are doing the talking, then maybe it won't just be the so-called lower tier nations that break ranks(!) There is a clear impression (and I'd welcome some informed comment on this) that money is not a problem for certain cricketing interests in India - if so, why not finance a new global competition, to the benefit of all? Rather than meekly bowing to the ICC/BCCI and seeing them as the sole "saviours/guardians" of the world game, perhaps other avenues can be pursued with some real vigour and intent! Posted by James555 on February 13 2008, 18:07 PM GMT It's not a question of allowing professional cricket to become more important or not - we don't have a choice. National associations can't compete with professional owners. They have to develop schoolkids, maintain grounds all around the country, women's cricket, and comply with rules. They don't even own the rights to matches with touring teams, and can't sell the TV rights. They depend on the ICC entirely. The pro owners can sell, buy and pay whoever and whatever they want, and they have the world to choose from. If we want to have credible intl cricket we need to protect it. The NZ 11 who AREN'T allowed to play are now better than the NZ 11 who ARE allowed to play for their country. Finally , though it hasn't been tested, telling a player he can't play for a particular team IS restraint of trade. This may well become an issue if this carries on much longer. We need rules that protect national teams, and allow them to pick their best 11, regardless of who's paying who what. Posted by Grudge.Kid on February 13 2008, 16:08 PM GMT GeorgeF, you are right in the view that national teams are important. But are wrong that people wouldn't play after they made enough money. This format is entertaining and people will play on for two reasons: (i) interest on cricket never dies for a lot of people and (ii) People will try make as much money as possible as long as they can. You think Sachin didnt make enough money? He loves the game of cricket. He will keep playing as long as he can. Unlike you, I hope this game won't die a quick death, instead I hope IPL & ICL will have a healthy competetion and futher the game. Posted by masterblaster666 on February 13 2008, 06:37 AM GMT If the BCCI is also going to rob players - albeit temporarily -for its 'IPL' maybe the longterm solution is to go the football way on national teams as well. Cut down the plethora of international matches being played and instead have a World Test Series and an ODI Cup and a T20 cup. Telecast ICL and IPL matches worldwide just like football league matches...that will ensure people are not robbed of watching the best cricketers in the world. Not cricket the way we know (knew??) it, I know, but the road has already been taken by the players and anymore pig-headed stonewalling by the BCCI and the ICC will kill cricket once and for all. And yes, a World Test series might pose huge organizational problems because it might just go on and on. But a solution has to be found, we can't let Test cricket die just like that..not when WACA and Sydney produced great cracking matches this year. Posted by georgeF on February 13 2008, 02:45 AM GMT While I really enjoy the format of 20/20, even Kerry Packer saw the need for national sides where possible, and playing in a circus that doesn't have national teams will struggle to get crowd support. Which team would we support? Why would we care who wins? Why would we even watch it? I agree that the ICC/BCCI league is just as big a problem as the IPL (in fact worse, as it is a reaction aimed at spoiling,rather than an innovation). I think the 20/20 leagues, while rewarding players greatly, will not lead to lasting contracts or careers. No amount of money will keep people enthusiastic to play for very long if they wonder what the point of it all is, and it may lead to premature retirements rather than enhanced careers. If you;ve already earned enough money and gained financial security, why play on? Why tour places you don't want to go to? Why put up with the injuries and inane sponsorship rules so prevalent these days? I sincerely hope it dies a quick death! Posted by piosad on February 12 2008, 21:58 PM GMT James555, you may have a point, but football (as well as other sports such as rugby) does have problems with clubs refusing to release players for country selection: in effect, this is as if first-class cricket, or even T20 (well paid for) took over from Tests as the most important form of the game. Is this something you are also prepared to allow? Posted by Grudge.Kid on February 12 2008, 21:57 PM GMT I am an Indian and I completely agree with the author. This is probably the Cricket Generation where talented cricketers could make a million USD a year. How can anyone blame either Bond or the ICL for this? It's the BCCI and to an extent ICC and the NZC. Right on author. I don't get this: If the ICC thinks its ok for players to play for their country and for County Cricket and the IPL, why not ICL? It was the ICL's idea to begin with and IPL copied it and now the ICC is supporting the IPL and trying to make them a Monopoly. This is illegal. A healthy competetion between the ICL and IPL could be very entertaining and could be a huge positive for cricket as a whole. Posted by Praveen.Bhaskar on February 12 2008, 20:02 PM GMT BCCI is being shameless in bullying other cricket boards to maltreat their players, the way bond has been done in. This is pathetic and a very unsporting act. A game of cricket played anywhere by anybody will still be a cricket. Being a mentor of the game in India, they should take this (ICL venture) as an encouragement to the game rather than a threat to their existence. I still understand them competeing with it by launching ventures as IPL but competeing by way of such foul plays and ensuring that ICL cease to exist, to me is cowardice. I dont know if anything can be done. I have a suggestion for ICL guys. Lure Tendulkar to sign up the ICL and any act of anti tendulkar in India will clean the mess for once and for ever as people will see to it that BCCI learns its lesson by its own. Or something as awekening as that must take place as people's attention till date hasn't been drawn onto it and thats why no substantial momentum against this BCCI policy is being built. Posted by uknsaunders on February 12 2008, 15:58 PM GMT Spot on Mark, Well Done! The IPL threatens to cause major problems for many countries. $500K for a few weeks work or 20% of that for the season or even year - alot of 2nd tier players will walk - we are talking about not just up and coming talent but also established pros who are on the fringes of test cricket. Ultimately when the call comes where will they be? At least the ICL offers national cricket associations an option to get their best players back on the park - or it did until the BCCI/ICC stepped in.. Would it not be simplier to allow all players to play wherever they want but ensuring they are available for international cricket when called upon? That's how the county championship works in the UK - overseas players come and go according to what their boards will allow them to do and some clubs may have 2/3 replacements for 1 overseas spot during the course of the season. Surely if they cannot play for whoever they want then it's restraint of trade?
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